MADISON, Wisconsin (AP) -- -- Gov. Jim Doyle on Friday vetoed a bill that would have forced doctors to tell women seeking abortions after their fifth month of pregnancy that their fetuses could suffer pain.
Doyle, a Democrat, said there is no evidence conclusively proving when a fetus can feel pain. The Republican-controlled Legislature should not be allowed to decide scientific fact, he said.
(CNN/AP)
The problem in this issue is that the studies both ways aren't yet conclusive and confirmed, so we really have no hard scientific evidence either way. Science does not have a conclusion on this one (unlike global warming and evolution).
Meanwhile, just saw March of the Penguins yesterday. I really don't see why the Conservatives are using that movie as their rallying cry. It shows just how incompetent most parents are at keeping their babies/chicks alive, it supports evolution, and it encourages serial monogamy - picking a new mate after the baby's out of the foot-belly-nest. I guess they've got a minor trimumph in that gay penguins aren't mentioned, and that two parents are required for the chick to survive, but I haven't heard of conservatives trying to kill single mothers (or fathers) or anything.
It made me think though, at what point do scientists consider a bird to be alive? In the womb equivalent before the egg has been produced? In the egg? Or not till it's hatched? Their issue is even more confusing than ours. I guess I consider the bird egg before it is laid, as being equivalent to the human blastocyst before implantation. The laid egg is the embryo in a pregnant woman, and the hatched egg is the born baby. There are of course imperfections in the analogy - infertile eggs can be laid - but the only perfect analogy is the original item.
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